I only accept take backs if my opponent offers it basically straight away because it was a mouse slip. I’m also grateful if people accept a take back for me if I do a mouse slip! I think it’s a good thing, and if you don’t want to allow a take back you don’t have to, so stop complaining!
We should stop asking takebacks and see whether what we wanted to ask takeback for is actually a good move. If no, we should accept our mistake.
#10 but their mouse-slip was their absolute best! You and your opponent want to play would-be best chess, how 'bout just playing chess?
But many find they enjoy giving and taking takebacks, and happiness shall not be imposed on others..
So, the question left for me is which way of the two is promoted by the default setting. I'd like 'no takebacks' to be the given when an account is opened. That would make people wonder, if 'takebacks enabled' may be just a gimmick. Set as the default itself, 'takebacks enabled' would look open, generous, communicative, while it is not open to its own mistakes, doesn't generously let the game go the way the mistakes lead it, and (at best) communicates the mistakes away.
I would like default settings to tell me: We are here to play chess, we are not perfect, we are blundering and we are mouse-slipping and mis-clicking, and the normal way to go about it is to cheerfully accept it, to work on it or love it or both, and the second way only is to create a work-around, to take back moves by mutual agreement in order to reach and play more of the intended positions.
For me, it is like being childish about unintended things happening. As if chess was not a thing of minute accuracy, of which our motor skills and deficits were not a natural part of. Accuracy can only be appreciated if misses are acknowledged.
You can always sit down and analyze the position with or without your opponent, if it was a pity. But of course by all means you should be allowed to play on under the twilights of takeback. While 'no takebacks' should be the default setting, to promote accuracy and humbleness.
Can anybody tell, please, what of the three picks- Takebacks (with opponent approval) Never/Always/In casual games only- is the default right now? Thank you!
So, the question left for me is which way of the two is promoted by the default setting. I'd like 'no takebacks' to be the given when an account is opened. That would make people wonder, if 'takebacks enabled' may be just a gimmick. Set as the default itself, 'takebacks enabled' would look open, generous, communicative, while it is not open to its own mistakes, doesn't generously let the game go the way the mistakes lead it, and (at best) communicates the mistakes away.
I would like default settings to tell me: We are here to play chess, we are not perfect, we are blundering and we are mouse-slipping and mis-clicking, and the normal way to go about it is to cheerfully accept it, to work on it or love it or both, and the second way only is to create a work-around, to take back moves by mutual agreement in order to reach and play more of the intended positions.
For me, it is like being childish about unintended things happening. As if chess was not a thing of minute accuracy, of which our motor skills and deficits were not a natural part of. Accuracy can only be appreciated if misses are acknowledged.
You can always sit down and analyze the position with or without your opponent, if it was a pity. But of course by all means you should be allowed to play on under the twilights of takeback. While 'no takebacks' should be the default setting, to promote accuracy and humbleness.
Can anybody tell, please, what of the three picks- Takebacks (with opponent approval) Never/Always/In casual games only- is the default right now? Thank you!
It's just that i hate those i allow a take back and a few minutes and just 10 moves later in a 5 minutes game leave the game, not even being able to resign...Most of the time i deny a take back and i resign right away not allowing myself to lose time with useless games , cause i find that serious players at my level always resign instead of asking for a take back, while better players will beat me anyway, even if they lose a queen sometimes..
Here's a guy refusing a take back on a very obvious slip mouse ...but he spent a lot of time before moving while i simply lost grip of the mouse waiting for the assh...So sometimes asking for a takeback is actually bowing to a midget...
Actually, having "no takebacks" as a default setting would probably limit the number of thread about this topic, which is a good thing.
Also it would be coherent with the FIDE Laws of Chess.
Also it would be coherent with the FIDE Laws of Chess.
Everyone has the moral and legal right to ask for a take-back anytime they want to. However. It always comes down to what their opponent decides. To everyone who thinks take-backs should be removed from lichess. #1 turn it off in your profile. And #2 what is your opponent doing wrong by asking a simple and reasonable question?
I believe that "Always" is the default, @ungewichtet .
I changed it to "Casual Only," which is essentially the same as "Never" for me, as 99% of my games are rated.
I changed it to "Casual Only," which is essentially the same as "Never" for me, as 99% of my games are rated.
the same people that want the take backs are the same people that never give them, i keep it enabled so i can waste my opponents time when they request one and i just let it sit until they make a move
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